Godheut (?)1,2
F, b. circa 1010, d. after 1077
Godheut (?) was born circa 1010 at Normandy, France. She married Roger II 'The Spaniard' Conches de Toeni, son of Ralph II Seigneur de Toeni , Lord of Conches and Miss Countess of Bayeux, before 1025.1,2 Godheut (?) married an unknown person after 1038.1,2 She died after 1077.
Children of Godheut (?) and Roger II 'The Spaniard' Conches de Toeni
- Ralph III de Toeni , de Conches+ b. bt 1025 - 1030, d. bt 24 Mar 1101 - 1102
- Alice (Adelise) de Toeni+ b. 1033, d. 5 Oct 1070
Gunnhild Olafsdottir
F, b. 923
Children of Gunnhild Olafsdottir and Herbastus Forester of Arque
- Gunnor (GundraGunnora) 'not' de Crepon+ b. c 942, d. 1031
- Duvelina (EvaDulceline) 'not' de Crepon+ b. c 953
- Herfast (Arfastus) de Crepon+ b. c 955, d. Deceased
- Avelina (Wevia) 'not' de Crepon+ b. c 960
Herlouin Seigneur de Hugleville
M, b. circa 983
Child of Herlouin Seigneur de Hugleville
- Ada Heiress de Hugleville+ b. c 1011
Mauger Seigneur de St. Clair
M, b. circa 1005, d. 1047
Mauger Seigneur de St. Clair was born circa 1005 at St Clair-sur-Elle, Manche, Normandy, France. He was the son of Richard II 'The Good' Duke of Normandy and Judith of Brittany. Mauger Seigneur de St. Clair died in 1047.
Child of Mauger Seigneur de St. Clair and Miss St. Clair de Bassenville
- Walderne de St. Clair+ b. c 1022
Miss St. Clair de Bassenville
F, b. circa 1005
Child of Miss St. Clair de Bassenville and Mauger Seigneur de St. Clair
- Walderne de St. Clair+ b. c 1022
Elizabeth de Sours
F, b. circa 1015
Elizabeth de Sours was born circa 1015 at France.
She Undoubtedly Elizabeth is from a place called Sours. The only place Ifind is a Chateau Sours, a winery in Bordeaux. I have another personHumberge de Sours (wife of Eberhard de Breteuil), born about the sametime. They could be sisters.
She Undoubtedly Elizabeth is from a place called Sours. The only place Ifind is a Chateau Sours, a winery in Bordeaux. I have another personHumberge de Sours (wife of Eberhard de Breteuil), born about the sametime. They could be sisters.
Child of Elizabeth de Sours and Hugh Bardoul Seigneur de Broyes
- Isabella de Broyes , Dame de Nogent+ b. c 1034, d. a 1058
Landeric IV (Landry) Comte de Nevers1
M, b. circa 967, d. 11 May 1028
Landeric IV (Landry) Comte de Nevers was born circa 967 at Maers, Nievre, Bourgogne, France. He married Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy, daughter of Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy, in 989.1 Landeric IV (Landry) Comte de Nevers died on 11 May 1028 at Nevers, Nievre, Bourgogne, France.1
Child of Landeric IV (Landry) Comte de Nevers and Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy
- Renaud I Comte de Nevers , & Auxerre+ b. c 1000, d. 29 May 1040
Citations
- [S272] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Landeric Count de Nevers.
Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy1
F, b. circa 984, d. 13 November 1005
Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy was born circa 984 at Bourgogne, France. She was the daughter of Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy. Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy married Landeric IV (Landry) Comte de Nevers in 989.2 Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy died on 13 November 1005.1
Child of Mathilde (Maud) of Burgundy and Landeric IV (Landry) Comte de Nevers
- Renaud I Comte de Nevers , & Auxerre+ b. c 1000, d. 29 May 1040
Gerard I Count von Wassenberg
M, b. circa 988, d. 1035
Gerard I Count von Wassenberg was born circa 988 at Wassenberg, Lorraine now Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany. He died in 1035 at Heinsberg, Lorraine now Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.
Child of Gerard I Count von Wassenberg
- Gerard II Count von Wassenberg+ b. c 1013, d. 1086
Arlogia of Orkney
F, b. circa 1013
Child of Arlogia of Orkney and Ragnvald II Brusisson , Jarl of Orkney
- Robert de Brus , of Normandy+ b. c 1030, d. Deceased
Brusi Sigurdsson , Jarl of Orkney1
M, b. circa 988, d. after 31 August 1030
Brusi Sigurdsson , Jarl of Orkney was born circa 988 at Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland. He died after 31 August 1030.1
He NORSE PREDECESSORS of the EARLS of ORKNEY - subject to King of Norwayuntil after 1379
Brusi, Jarl of one-third of Orkney 1014, a 'mild and very peaceable man,wise, eloquent and popular.' When Thorfinn invaded Orkney from Caithnessin 1018, Brusi induced Einar to allow Thorfinn to have Somerled’s share.In return he handed the administration and defence of his own share toEinar on the understanding that if he outlived him he should recover itand acquire Einar’s third as well. Thus, after Einar’s death in theautumn of 1020, he became entitled to two-thirds of Orkney; but Thorfinnclaimed half of Einar’s third of right, and suggested that as Brusi wasso peaceful a man he might well be content with his original third. Brusiwent to Norway with his son Ragnvald (b. 1011) to appeal to King St. Olaf(1015-1028) and became his man for all his inherited lands in Orkney (?Spring 1021). Thorfinn followed and the King divided Orkney, givingone-third to Brusi, one-third to Thorfinn and keeping one third himself,The King gave his own third of Orkney as a fief to Jarl Brusi, who thushad two-thirds once more and returned to Orkney in the autumn of 1021.Thorfinn, who remained in Caithness took taxes and dues from his third ofOrkney, but made no provision for the defence of the Nordreys, the wholeburden of which fell on Brusi. By a further agreement made after thedeposition of St. Olaf in 1028 and before 1034, Brusi surrenderedone-third to Thorfinn, who in return assumed the whole defence of theNordreys. Soon after this Jarl Brusi died (? 1030), 'in the days of Cnutthe Powerful,' a little after the fall of King St. Olaf i.e. between 31Aug. 1030 and 12 Nov. 1035. He left a son Ragnvald. [Complete Peerage,X:Appendix A:9-10]
He NORSE PREDECESSORS of the EARLS of ORKNEY - subject to King of Norwayuntil after 1379
Brusi, Jarl of one-third of Orkney 1014, a 'mild and very peaceable man,wise, eloquent and popular.' When Thorfinn invaded Orkney from Caithnessin 1018, Brusi induced Einar to allow Thorfinn to have Somerled’s share.In return he handed the administration and defence of his own share toEinar on the understanding that if he outlived him he should recover itand acquire Einar’s third as well. Thus, after Einar’s death in theautumn of 1020, he became entitled to two-thirds of Orkney; but Thorfinnclaimed half of Einar’s third of right, and suggested that as Brusi wasso peaceful a man he might well be content with his original third. Brusiwent to Norway with his son Ragnvald (b. 1011) to appeal to King St. Olaf(1015-1028) and became his man for all his inherited lands in Orkney (?Spring 1021). Thorfinn followed and the King divided Orkney, givingone-third to Brusi, one-third to Thorfinn and keeping one third himself,The King gave his own third of Orkney as a fief to Jarl Brusi, who thushad two-thirds once more and returned to Orkney in the autumn of 1021.Thorfinn, who remained in Caithness took taxes and dues from his third ofOrkney, but made no provision for the defence of the Nordreys, the wholeburden of which fell on Brusi. By a further agreement made after thedeposition of St. Olaf in 1028 and before 1034, Brusi surrenderedone-third to Thorfinn, who in return assumed the whole defence of theNordreys. Soon after this Jarl Brusi died (? 1030), 'in the days of Cnutthe Powerful,' a little after the fall of King St. Olaf i.e. between 31Aug. 1030 and 12 Nov. 1035. He left a son Ragnvald. [Complete Peerage,X:Appendix A:9-10]
Child of Brusi Sigurdsson , Jarl of Orkney and Ostrida Regenwaldsdottir
- Ragnvald II Brusisson , Jarl of Orkney+ b. 1011, d. Dec 1046
Citations
- [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, X:A:9-10.
Ostrida Regenwaldsdottir
F, b. circa 990
Child of Ostrida Regenwaldsdottir and Brusi Sigurdsson , Jarl of Orkney
- Ragnvald II Brusisson , Jarl of Orkney+ b. 1011, d. Dec 1046
Ulfius Shratlingusson1
M, b. circa 945
Child of Ulfius Shratlingusson
- Biorn Ulfiusson , Jarl of Denmark+ b. c 970, d. 1049
Citations
- [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 141.
Constance d' Eu
F, b. circa 1009
Constance d' Eu was born circa 1009 at Eu, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France. She was the daughter of William l Comte Heimois & d' Eu and Beatrice le Goz.
Constance d' Eu Constance was a 1st cousin of the half blood to Gilbert, which makesmarriage somewhat questionable, but would explain why Gilbert finallyreceived the Countship of Eu, which his father had, but only afterWilliam was Count in the period between father and son.
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The following information was in a post-em from Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com:
It has not been proven one way or another whether Godfrey & William werehalf or full brothers, so Constance (if she existed) may have been a full1st cousin to Gilbert.
A better explanation of Gilbert becoming Count of EU would be thatGilbert’s father, Godfrey, who was originally given the lordship(Seigneury?) of Brionne, was then made Count of EU by his father DukeRichard I. When his brother Richard II 'the Good' became Duke in 996,Godfrey rebelled & was then deprived of EU. Godfrey’s brother William,who had been Count of the Heimois, was then awarded the countship of EU.Godfrey was eventually forgiven & given back the lordship of Brionne, butnot the countship of Eu. Godfrey died 1015 leaving Gilbert with only thelordship of Brionne. At William’s death, Godfrey’s son, Gilbert,_assumed_ the land & title, not through marriage, but because he arguedthat it was his inheritance since after William died, his wife & sonswere expelled from Eu during Guy of Burgundy's rebellion. Gilbert wasassassinated (having claimed the County of Eu for less than a year). Hischildren were then forced to flee Normandy & were never to bring EU backinto this branch. Eu reverted back to William’s son, William Busac, whoin turn was deprived of it in favor of his brother Robert who became oneof the Conqueror’s most trusted generals.
Another scenario put forth by Dave Utzinger (which I think incorrect) isthat Godfrey didn’t rebel & lose Eu & that Gilbert inherited it. It wasGilbert who rebelled against Richard II & was thus deprived of Eu.Chronologically this doesn’t work as Richard II died 1027. In 1039-40,Wm the Conqueror (gson of Richard II) was Duke of Normandy. Also it isknown that Gilbert’s uncle William was awarded Eu just prior to his death.
At any rate, it would seem that Gilbert claimed Eu, not by marriage butby inheritance & because at that time it had (temporarily) been vacated.Even if he married a dau of William Count of Eu’s dau (& I am extremelyskeptical of this), he still would not have become Count of Eu becauseWm’s sons had dibs.
Regards,
Curt.
Constance d' Eu Constance was a 1st cousin of the half blood to Gilbert, which makesmarriage somewhat questionable, but would explain why Gilbert finallyreceived the Countship of Eu, which his father had, but only afterWilliam was Count in the period between father and son.
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The following information was in a post-em from Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com:
It has not been proven one way or another whether Godfrey & William werehalf or full brothers, so Constance (if she existed) may have been a full1st cousin to Gilbert.
A better explanation of Gilbert becoming Count of EU would be thatGilbert’s father, Godfrey, who was originally given the lordship(Seigneury?) of Brionne, was then made Count of EU by his father DukeRichard I. When his brother Richard II 'the Good' became Duke in 996,Godfrey rebelled & was then deprived of EU. Godfrey’s brother William,who had been Count of the Heimois, was then awarded the countship of EU.Godfrey was eventually forgiven & given back the lordship of Brionne, butnot the countship of Eu. Godfrey died 1015 leaving Gilbert with only thelordship of Brionne. At William’s death, Godfrey’s son, Gilbert,_assumed_ the land & title, not through marriage, but because he arguedthat it was his inheritance since after William died, his wife & sonswere expelled from Eu during Guy of Burgundy's rebellion. Gilbert wasassassinated (having claimed the County of Eu for less than a year). Hischildren were then forced to flee Normandy & were never to bring EU backinto this branch. Eu reverted back to William’s son, William Busac, whoin turn was deprived of it in favor of his brother Robert who became oneof the Conqueror’s most trusted generals.
Another scenario put forth by Dave Utzinger (which I think incorrect) isthat Godfrey didn’t rebel & lose Eu & that Gilbert inherited it. It wasGilbert who rebelled against Richard II & was thus deprived of Eu.Chronologically this doesn’t work as Richard II died 1027. In 1039-40,Wm the Conqueror (gson of Richard II) was Duke of Normandy. Also it isknown that Gilbert’s uncle William was awarded Eu just prior to his death.
At any rate, it would seem that Gilbert claimed Eu, not by marriage butby inheritance & because at that time it had (temporarily) been vacated.Even if he married a dau of William Count of Eu’s dau (& I am extremelyskeptical of this), he still would not have become Count of Eu becauseWm’s sons had dibs.
Regards,
Curt.
Child of Constance d' Eu and Gilbert FitzGodfrey Comte d'Eu & Brionne
- Richard FitzGilbert de Clare , & Tonbridge, Sir+ b. b 1035, d. May 1089
Beatrice le Goz
F, b. circa 992, d. before 1014
Beatrice le Goz married an unknown person. She was born circa 992 at Creully, Calvados, Normandy, France. She was the daughter of Ansfred II Onfror le Goz. Beatrice le Goz married William l Comte Heimois & d' Eu, son of Richard I 'The Fearless' Duke of Normandy and (?) Concubine(s), after 1007. Beatrice le Goz died before 1014.
Child of Beatrice le Goz and William l Comte Heimois & d' Eu
- Constance d' Eu+ b. c 1009
Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine1,2
M, b. circa 1020, d. after 1065
Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine was born circa 1020 at Beaumont-sur-Sarthe(le-Vicomte), Sarthe, Maine/Pays-de-la-Loire, France. He was the son of Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Eremburgis (?) Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine married Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude, daughter of Etienne (Tescelin) Seigneur de Montrevault and Adelberge (Audeburge) de Lude, between 3 March 1047 and 1048.1 Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine died after 1065.
Child of Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude
- Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine+ b. c 1050, d. b 1095
Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine1,2
M, b. circa 1050, d. before 1095
Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine was born circa 1050 at Beaumont-sur-Sarthe(le-Vicomte), Sarthe, Maine/Pays-de-la-Loire, France. He was the son of Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude. Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine married Ermengarde de Nevers, daughter of William I (Guillaume) Comte de Nevers and Ermengarde de Tonnerre, on 6 December 1067.1 Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine died before 1095.1
Child of Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Ermengarde de Nevers
- Raoul V de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine+ b. c 1070, d. a 11 Jun 1120
Ermengarde de Nevers1,2
F, b. circa 1051, d. after 14 October 1090
Ermengarde de Nevers was born circa 1051 at Nevers, Nievre, Bourgogne, France. She was the daughter of William I (Guillaume) Comte de Nevers and Ermengarde de Tonnerre. Ermengarde de Nevers married Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine, son of Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude, on 6 December 1067.3 Ermengarde de Nevers died after 14 October 1090.1
Child of Ermengarde de Nevers and Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine
- Raoul V de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine+ b. c 1070, d. a 11 Jun 1120
Citations
- [S272] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Ermengarde de Nevers.
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Ed Mann, 6 Feb 1999.
- [S272] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Hubert, Vicomte du Main, Beaumont.
Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube1
F, b. circa 1019, d. 1053
Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube was born circa 1019 at Bar-sur-Aube, Aube, Champagne, France. She was the daughter of Nocher III Comte de Bar-sur-Aube. Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube married an unknown person before 1034.1 She married Raoul III 'The Great' Count of Valois & Vexin, son of Raoul II Comte d' Valois , & Crepy and Adele de Breteuil, before 1041.2 Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube died in 1053.1
She The marriages of Aelis are very confusing to say the least. I think thatI have sorted them out in order. See notes under Raoul (4th husband) tosee some of the reasons behind all of the 'marriages'. Perhaps the 2nd &3rd of them weren't really marriages, but abductions, which would explainwhy there were so many marriages with little time in between husbands.
I have her with a son by her 1st husband. The account in Raoul's notesdoesn't say anything about earlier children, starting her out as a'widow', apparently of a Joigny.
She The marriages of Aelis are very confusing to say the least. I think thatI have sorted them out in order. See notes under Raoul (4th husband) tosee some of the reasons behind all of the 'marriages'. Perhaps the 2nd &3rd of them weren't really marriages, but abductions, which would explainwhy there were so many marriages with little time in between husbands.
I have her with a son by her 1st husband. The account in Raoul's notesdoesn't say anything about earlier children, starting her out as a'widow', apparently of a Joigny.
Child of Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube and Raoul III 'The Great' Count of Valois & Vexin
- Adela de Vexin+ b. c 1041, d. 1080
Nocher III Comte de Bar-sur-Aube1
M, b. circa 992, d. circa 1040
Nocher III Comte de Bar-sur-Aube was born circa 992 at Bar-sur-Aube, Aube, Champagne, France. He died circa 1040.1
Child of Nocher III Comte de Bar-sur-Aube
- Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube+ b. c 1019, d. 1053
Citations
- [S272] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Nocher III Comte de Bar-sur-Aube.
Heinrich von Wassenberg
M, b. circa 1033, d. 1075
Heinrich von Wassenberg was born circa 1033 at Wassenberg, Lorraine now Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany. He was the son of Gerard II Count von Wassenberg. Heinrich von Wassenberg died in 1075.
Child of Heinrich von Wassenberg
- Gerard III von Wassenberg , Count of Guelders+ b. c 1053, d. 1125
Miss de Montlhery1
F, b. circa 990
Child of Miss de Montlhery and Milon de Monteleherico , Seigneur de la Ferte
- Guy I Seigneur de Montlhery , & Chevreuse+ b. 1009, d. 1095
Citations
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Ed Mann, 2 Apr 2000.
Duvelina (EvaDulceline) 'not' de Crepon1,2,3
F, b. circa 953
Duvelina (EvaDulceline) 'not' de Crepon was born circa 953 at Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France. She was the daughter of Herbastus Forester of Arque and Gunnhild Olafsdottir.
Duvelina (EvaDulceline) 'not' de Crepon The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from apost to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie:
From: Todd A. Farmerie (taf2 AT po.cwru.edu)
Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1996/12/03
Duvelina, a second sister of Gunnor, married Turulf de Pont Audemer, sonof a Norman founder Torf, and uncle of the first of the Harcourts. Theyhad at least one son, Humphrey de Vielles, who in turn was father ofRoger de Beaumont, another Conquest-era baron.
Duvelina (EvaDulceline) 'not' de Crepon The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from apost to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie:
From: Todd A. Farmerie (taf2 AT po.cwru.edu)
Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1996/12/03
Duvelina, a second sister of Gunnor, married Turulf de Pont Audemer, sonof a Norman founder Torf, and uncle of the first of the Harcourts. Theyhad at least one son, Humphrey de Vielles, who in turn was father ofRoger de Beaumont, another Conquest-era baron.
Child of Duvelina (EvaDulceline) 'not' de Crepon and Turulf (Thorold) Seigneur de Pont Audemer
- Humphrey de PontAudemer , Seigneur de Vieilles+ b. c 980, d. 28 Sep 1044
Citations
- [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 13, 100.
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Todd A. Farmerie, 3 Dec 1996.
- [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VII:521 note (c).
Milo IV Comte de Tonnerre1,2
M, b. circa 960, d. before 998
Milo IV Comte de Tonnerre married Ermengarde de Macon, daughter of Alberic II Count of Macon , & Salins and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy. Milo IV Comte de Tonnerre was born circa 960 at Tonnerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France. He died before 998.1
He Note: Ed Mann, following 'Royalty for Commoners' has Milo's father as GuiII de Tonnerre (d. aft. 994) by Adela, and Gui II was son of Milo III.Settipani omitted that generation, going straight to Milo III.
He Note: Ed Mann, following 'Royalty for Commoners' has Milo's father as GuiII de Tonnerre (d. aft. 994) by Adela, and Gui II was son of Milo III.Settipani omitted that generation, going straight to Milo III.
Child of Milo IV Comte de Tonnerre and Ermengarde de Macon
- Renhard II (Renaud) Comte de Tonnerre+ b. c 993, d. 16 Jul 1039
Helvise de Noyon1,2
F, b. circa 1000, d. after 1030
Helvise de Noyon was born circa 1000 at Noyon, Oise, Picardy, France. She was the daughter of Garnier de Noyon. Helvise de Noyon died after 1030.
She This is an excerpt from a post to SGM (full post is in notes underErmengarde de Tonnerre), 5 Dec 1998, by Settipani, the noted Frenchgenealogist:
The Ascendancy of Ermengarde of Tonnerre : Part II
The ancestry of Helvisa (no 3) is unknown, but I suppose her a niece ofHardoin, bishop of Noyon (1015-1027) (M. Chaume believed she was a sisterof his). Hardoin is brother of Garnier and son of Robert of Croyes.Probably they are issued of Waltharius (Gauthier, Walter), count ofValois, Amiens and Vexin (d. c. 992/8), grandson of the caroligianHelvisa.
She This is an excerpt from a post to SGM (full post is in notes underErmengarde de Tonnerre), 5 Dec 1998, by Settipani, the noted Frenchgenealogist:
The Ascendancy of Ermengarde of Tonnerre : Part II
The ancestry of Helvisa (no 3) is unknown, but I suppose her a niece ofHardoin, bishop of Noyon (1015-1027) (M. Chaume believed she was a sisterof his). Hardoin is brother of Garnier and son of Robert of Croyes.Probably they are issued of Waltharius (Gauthier, Walter), count ofValois, Amiens and Vexin (d. c. 992/8), grandson of the caroligianHelvisa.
Child of Helvise de Noyon and Renhard II (Renaud) Comte de Tonnerre
- Ermengarde de Tonnerre+ b. c 1030, d. b 1090
Garnier de Noyon1
M, b. circa 977
Garnier de Noyon was born circa 977 at Noyon, Oise, Picardy, France.
He Settipani does not explicitly state that Garnier was Hevlisa's father,but he was her supposed uncle's (Hardoin bishop of Noyon's) brother, andis the only one of that generation noted by Settipani.
He Settipani does not explicitly state that Garnier was Hevlisa's father,but he was her supposed uncle's (Hardoin bishop of Noyon's) brother, andis the only one of that generation noted by Settipani.
Child of Garnier de Noyon
- Helvise de Noyon+ b. c 1000, d. a 1030
Citations
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Settipani, 5 Dec 1998.
Baderon de Monmouth1
M, b. circa 1060, d. Deceased
Baderon de Monmouth died Deceased at Monmouthshire, Wales. He was born circa 1060 at Boussac near Dol, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France. He was the son of Caradoc de la Boussac.
Child of Baderon de Monmouth
- William FitzBaderon de Monmouth+ b. c 1087, d. b 1138
Citations
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Christopher Nash, 13 Aug 2002.
Caradoc de la Boussac1
M, b. circa 1035
Child of Caradoc de la Boussac
- Baderon de Monmouth+ b. c 1060, d. Deceased
Citations
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Christopher Nash, 13 Aug 2002.
Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine1,2
M, b. circa 993, d. before 1040
Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine was born circa 993 at Ste-Suzanne, Mayenne, Maine/Pays-de-la-Loire, France. He was the son of Raoul II de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Godehilde (Godehelt) de Belleme. Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine married Eremburgis (?) in 997.1 Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine died before 1040 at Beaumont-sur-Sarthe(le-Vicomte), Sarthe, Maine/Pays-de-la-Loire, France.1
Child of Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Eremburgis (?)
- Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine+ b. c 1020, d. a 1065
Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude1,2
F, b. circa 1030, d. 12 September 1058
Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude was born circa 1030 at Montrevault, Maine-et-Loire, Anjou/Pays-de-la-Loire, France. She was the daughter of Etienne (Tescelin) Seigneur de Montrevault and Adelberge (Audeburge) de Lude. Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude married Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine, son of Raoul III de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine and Eremburgis (?), between 3 March 1047 and 1048.3 Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude died on 12 September 1058.1
Child of Emme de Montrevault , Dame de Lude and Raoul IV de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine
- Hubert de Beaumont , Vicomte du Maine+ b. c 1050, d. b 1095
Citations
- [S272] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Emme de Montevault, Dame de Lude.
- [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Ed Mann, 6 Feb 1999.
- [S272] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Raoul V, Vicomte de Beaumont, Vicomte de Maine.