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     Astrid of Obotrites was born in 979 at Sweden. She married Olaf III Eriksson King of Sweden circa 999 at of Uppsala, Sweden.

     Otho Count of Vermandois was born circa 1000 at Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France.¹ He was the son of Herbert III Count of Vermandois and Ermengarde de Macon. Otho Count of Vermandois married Parvie (?) circa 1027 at France. Otho Count of Vermandois died on 25 May 1045.¹

     Herbert III Count of Vermandois was born circa 955 at Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France.¹ He married Ermengarde de Macon, daughter of Alberic II Count of Macon , & Salins and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy, after 998.^1,2 Herbert III Count of Vermandois died circa 1000.¹

     Ermengarde de Macon married Milo IV Comte de Tonnerre. Ermengarde de Macon was born circa 972 at Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France.² She was the daughter of Alberic II Count of Macon , & Salins and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy. Ermengarde de Macon married Herbert III Count of Vermandois after 998.^3,1 Ermengarde de Macon died after 1018.¹
     She Note: AR has Herbert III de Vermandois as her 2nd husband, but the notedFrench genealogist Settipani has Herbert as her 1st husband and Milo IVas her 2nd. The sourced dates seem to work better following AR (whichis why I am leaving them alone); however, if Settipani is correct (and heis an expert), then Herbert III would have died before 992 (Settipani hasErmengarde's son by Milo, Renaud b. abt 993), and Herbert & Ermengarde'sson Otto would have been born before 992/3 instead of about 1000.

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This is an excerpt from a post to SGM (full post is in notes underErmengarde de Tonnerre), 5 Dec 1998, by Settipani, the noted Frenchgenealogist:

The Ascendancy of Ermengarde of Tonnerre : Part II

The family of Ermengardis (no 5), widow of Herbert, not the reverse, isnot « Bar-sur-Seine » (one misunderstanding hypothesis of E. Petit: sucha dynasty does not exist at this time). She was, I think, the daughter ofAlberic II of Macon and his second wife.

     Parvie (?) was born circa 1005. She married Otho Count of Vermandois, son of Herbert III Count of Vermandois and Ermengarde de Macon, circa 1027 at France.

     Raoul III 'The Great' Count of Valois & Vexin was buried at Crepy, Artois/Pas-de-Calais, France. He was born circa 1015 at Vexin, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France.² He was the son of Raoul II Comte d' Valois , & Crepy and Adele de Breteuil. Raoul III 'The Great' Count of Valois & Vexin married Aelis (Adele) Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube, daughter of Nocher III Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, before 1041.³ Raoul III 'The Great' Count of Valois & Vexin married an unknown person after 1053.³ He married Anna (Agnesa) Yaroslavna of Kiev, daughter of Jaroslaus I 'The Wise' Grand Duke of Kiev and Ingegard Olafsdottir, in 1061.³ Raoul III 'The Great' Count of Valois & Vexin died between 23 February 1073 and 1074 at Peronne, Somme, Picardy, France.²
     He Raoul, a descendent of Charlemagne, was Count of Valois, Vexin, andCrepy. To this he added Bar-sur-Aube by marrying the heiress, Aelis,Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube, a widow. However, after sigining themarriage-contract but before the nuptials had taken place, the knights ofthe Chateau de Joigny passed her on to another nobleman. Raoul hurriedback and captured the Chateau and his bride, locking her up in LaFerte-sur-Aube, long enough to assure himself she was not pregnant.Again in his absence, she was captured by a local squire but, after beingrescued, the nuptials with Raoul took place and they became the parentsof two sons and two, perhaps three, daughters.

After Aelis died, Raoul married a lady named Haquenez, but when the kingdied and his widow became available, Raoul dismissed Haquenez and marriedthe queen-widow. At this, however, Haquenez complained to the pope ofbeing 'despoiled of everything by her husband; she had been dismissed ona false charge of fornication.'

Raoul was excommunicated, not for adultery but for incest. 'Contrary tothe law, he had lain with the wife of the dead king, who was his cousin.' [Leo van de Pas]

     Raoul II Comte d' Valois , & Crepy was born circa 985 at Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France. He was the son of Walter II Count of Vexin & Amiens & Valois and Adele de Senlis. Raoul II Comte d' Valois , & Crepy died in 1060 at Castle at Crespy, Valois now Oise, Picardy, France.²

     Adele de Breteuil was born in 992 at Breteuil, Eure, Normandy, France. She died on 11 September 1051.²

     Elizabeth (Isabel) de Montlhery married Walter (Gauthier) de St. Valery , of Tetbury, son of Bernard II de St. Valery. Elizabeth (Isabel) de Montlhery was born in 1040 at Montlhery, Essonne, Ile-de-France, France.⁵ She was the daughter of Guy I Seigneur de Montlhery , & Chevreuse and Hodierne de Gometz , Dame de la Ferte. Elizabeth (Isabel) de Montlhery married an unknown person in 1065.¹
     She Originally Elizabeth/Isabel (apparently the names are the same inMedieval English/Latin) was married to Walter de St. Valery, d. 1061, andthen she married Joscelin Courtenay. However Walter apparently liveduntil after 1086, and possibly after 1097; so I don't know if they got adivorce, or if two sisters married the two gentlemen - and Isabel andElizabeth are not the same person. There are sources for both marriages.

     Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy was born circa 955 at Dijon, Cote d'Or, Bourgogne, France.³ He married Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy in 982.⁴ Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy died on 21 September 1026 at Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France.³

     Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy was born circa 953 at Reims, Marne, Champagne, France. She married Alberic II Count of Macon , & Salins in 970.^1,4,5 Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy married Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy in 982.³ Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy died between 5 March 1003 and 1004.³

     Ragnvald II Brusisson , Jarl of Orkney was born in 1011 at Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland.¹ He was the son of Brusi Sigurdsson , Jarl of Orkney and Ostrida Regenwaldsdottir. Ragnvald II Brusisson , Jarl of Orkney died in December 1046 at Papa Stronsay, Orkney Islands, Scotland.¹
     He NORSE PREDECESSORS of the EARLS of ORKNEY - subject to King of Norwayuntil after 1379

Ragnvald II Brusisson, Jarl of two-thirds at Orkney Autumn 1038, b. 1011.He was taken by his father to Norway in the spring of 1021 and left as ahostage with St. Olaf (1021-1028), attended him into exile at Novgorod,returned with him to Norway, and was defeated with him at the battle ofStikklestad (29 July 1030); but he escaped to Sweden with St. Olaf’shalf-brother Harald Hardradi, then aged about fifteen and wounded in thebattle. Thence in the spring of 1031 they went to Novgorod, where theGrand Duke Yaroslav made Harold, Ragnvald and his son Eilif, officers inhis guard (Landvarnar-madr). Ragnvald, who 'had the wardership of theland in the summers but was in Holmgard (Novgorod) in the winters,'returned to Norway with Magnus the Good (then aged 11), son of St. Olaf,in 1036. As a result of the quarrel which ended this alliance, JarlRagnvald was killed by Thorfinn’s chief minister, Thorkel Fosterer, inDec. 1046. His wife’s name is not recorded. He had a son Eilifabovenamed, who does not appear ever to have claimed a share of Orkney.[Complete Peerage, X:Appendix A:14]

     Hildouin IV Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier was born circa 1010 at Montdidier, Somme, Picardy, France. He was the son of Hildouin III Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier and Lesseline (?) Hildouin IV Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier married Alice (AlixAdela) Countess de Roucy, daughter of Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy and Beatrix of Hainault, in 1031.^2,6 Hildouin IV Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier died in 1063 at Ramerupt, Aube, Champagne, France.^2,7,6

     Alice (AlixAdela) Countess de Roucy was born circa 1014 at Roucy, Aisne, Picardy, France.⁴ She was the daughter of Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy and Beatrix of Hainault. Alice (AlixAdela) Countess de Roucy married Hildouin IV Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier, son of Hildouin III Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier and Lesseline (?), in 1031.^1,5 Alice (AlixAdela) Countess de Roucy died in 1062.¹

     Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy was born in 988 at Roucy, Aisne, Picardy, France. He was the son of Giselbert Comte de Roucy , & Rheims and Miss de Macon. Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy died on 11 May 1033 at Reims, Marne, Champagne, France.¹

     Beatrix of Hainault was born in 992 at Hainault, France. She was the daughter of Regnier IV Count of Hainault and Hedwig (Edith) Princess of France. Beatrix of Hainault died after 1035.

     Giselbert Comte de Roucy , & Rheims was born circa 951 at Roucy, Aisne, Picardy, France.² He died after 19 April 991 at Reims, Marne, Champagne, France.^3,2

     Hildouin III Comte de Ramerupt & Montdidier died Deceased at Ramerupt, Aube, Champagne, France. He was born circa 990 at Montdidier, Somme, Picardy, France. He was the son of Hildouin II Comte de Montdidier.

     Lesseline (?) was born circa 995 at France.

     Hildouin II Comte de Montdidier was born in 960 at Montdidier, Somme, Picardy, France. He died in 992.

     William III Count of Poitou , V Duke d'Aquitaine married Agnes of Burgundy, daughter of Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy, BEF MAR 1017/18.³ William III Count of Poitou , V Duke d'Aquitaine married an unknown person.³ He was born circa 969 at Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France.⁴ He was the son of William II Count of Poitou , IV Duke d'Aquitaine and Emma de Blois. William III Count of Poitou , V Duke d'Aquitaine married an unknown person after 1005.³ He died between 31 January 1029 and 1030 at France.⁵

     Agnes of Burgundy married William III Count of Poitou , V Duke d'Aquitaine, son of William II Count of Poitou , IV Duke d'Aquitaine and Emma de Blois, BEF MAR 1017/18.¹ Agnes of Burgundy was born circa 995 at Bourgogne, France.² She was the daughter of Otto Guillaume Count of Burgundy and Ermentrude (Irmgard) de Roucy. Agnes of Burgundy died on 10 November 1068.²

     William II Count of Poitou , IV Duke d'Aquitaine was born in 937 at Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France.³ He married Emma de Blois before 969. William II Count of Poitou , IV Duke d'Aquitaine died between 3 February 994 and 995.^4,2

     Emma de Blois was born in 950 at Blois, Loir-et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France.³ She married William II Count of Poitou , IV Duke d'Aquitaine before 969. Emma de Blois died after 1003.³

     Blanaid nic Brian , of Munster married Malcolm II MacKenneth King of Scotland after 948. Blanaid nic Brian , of Munster was born circa 968 at Munster, Ireland.

     Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England was buried at Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England. He married Isabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont, daughter of Robert I de Beaumont , 1st Earl of Leicester and Isabel (Elizabeth) de Vermandois, at No Marriage.⁴ Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England was born in 1068 at Selby, West Riding Yorkshire, England.^2,3 He was the son of William I 'The Conqueror' King of England and Maud (Matilda) of Flanders. Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England married an unknown person on 11 November 1100 at Westminster Abbey, London, England.¹ He married an unknown person between 29 January 1120 and 1121 at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, England.^2,3 He died on 1 December 1135 at Lyons-la-Foret, Eure, Normandy, France.²
     He After discussing with Betty Knoche, the various opinions from differentsources about the mistresses and illegitimate children of Henry I (whoprobably had more than any other English monarch), I discovered anAppendix D in Volume XI of The Complete Peerage which lists all of the'known' children and connects them, where possible, with the knownmistresses. I have scanned the text and included it in the notes below.Please excuse any errors in scanning/translating the text.

HENRY I'S ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN (According to the Complete Peerage)

Henry I and Charles II were the only Kings of England to beget a largebrood of bastards. Charles II’s children have already been catalogued invol. VI, Appendix F; from which it appears that Charles, who had nolegitimate issue, is credited with 8 sons and 6 daughters, but that thepaternity of one of those sons is not certain. This record is easilybeaten by Henry I. Besides his 2, or possibly 3, legitimate children, itseems fairly certain that he was the father of at least 9 sons and 11daughters. Moreover it is possible that one of the 9 sons reallyrepresents brothers of the same name; and finally it remains doubtfulwhether a certain unnamed daughter of the King was identical with one ofthe 11 or was yet another addition to his extensive family.

No complete catalogue of Henry’s bastards is given by any contemporarywriter. However, Robert de Torigny, in his additions to the GestaNormannoram Ducum of William de Jumieges, enumerates 6 sons, mentioningthe marriage of the first, gives the marriages of 6 daughters, of whom henames only three, and refers to another daughter, also unnamed, who wasstill unmarried when he wrote. Particulars of Henry’s other childrenhave to be collected from different sources.

It is impossible to set out the names of the children in the order inwhich they were born, as the date of birth is not known for any of them;nor is it possible to arrange them according to their maternal parentage,for in most instances this is not recorded. Indeed, Robert de Torignydoes not name the mother of any of the 13 children whom he enumeratesexcept the unmarried daughter, although his omissions may occasionally bemade good from other sources.

The sons were as follows, nos. 1 to 6 being those named by Robert deTorigny. He states that no. 1 was the eldest son, and it is certain fromother evidence that no. 2 was the 2nd son ; but it is doubtful how farthe others follow any chronological or other order. It seems likely thatno. 6 was 3rd of the six, because when Robert wrote, probably not earlierthan 1142, nos. 3, and 5 were still young and unmarried (or so he says);but no. 6 had died soon after his father, being then a married man,leaving issue. Where the 3 remaining sons should be inserted is againuncertain; but no. 8 should probably follow no. 2, and no. 9 come afterno. 3, each pair being apparently children of the same mother. On theother hand, it is possible that Henry had two or more mistresses
simultaneously.

(1) ROBERT the King's Son, styled also De Caen (e), the name and identityof whose mother are uncertain (f); b. probably circa 1090; cr. in 1122(June-Sep.) EARL OF GLOUCESTER; m. Maud (named also Mabel and Sibyl) (g),da. and h. of Robert FitzHamon, LORD of GLAMORGAN, by Sibyl, da. of Roger(de Montgomery), 1st EARL of SHREWSBURY; d. 31 Oct. 1147 at Bristol; bur.at the Priory of St. James, Bristol. For fuller particulars of Robertand for his issue, see ante, vol. v, pp. 683-86, sub Gloucester. [Note:According to 'Corrections and Additions to CP', another source indicateshis mother is Nest verch Rhys, which is also discounted. Volume V of CP,published in 1926 indicates the mother was 'Sibyl, daughter of RobertCorbet a burgess in Caen', but Volume XI, published in 1949, discountsthat in note 'f' below. The mother is officially unknown. Many say thatthe mother of Robert was a French woman and that he was born in Caen.]

(e) He attested charters regularly as Robert 'filius, Regis'; but he istwice styled Robert de Caen (de Cadomo) by Orderic (ed. Le Prevost), vol.v, pp. 121, 122. The statement in the Dict. Nat. Biog. that Robert wasborn at Caen, citing Orderic, seems to be a deduction from thesepassages. That he was 'known ... as Robert 'de Caen' from his birthplace'is also amassed by Round, Family Origins, p. 214.

(f) The statement by Pezet, cited ante, vol. v, p. 683, that she wasSibyl, dau.. of Robert Corbet, a burgess of Caen, seems to arise fromconfusion with Henry I’s mistress Sibyl, dau. of Robert Corbet ofAlcester (see below).

(g) Her name seems to have been Maud (Round, Cal. Docs., no. 799;Orderic, vol. iii, p. 318); but she is called Mabel by William ofMalmesbury, Hist. Nevella (Rolls Ser.), pp. 529, 587, and by Robert ofGloucester (Rolls Ser.), II 8876, 8883, and Sibyl by Robert de Torigny,in his additions to Will. de Jumieges, p. 306. As Earl Robert claimed tobe a banner-bearer (signifer) of the see of Bayeux by hereditary right(Rec. des Hist. de France, vol. xxiii, p. 700), that office was probablyhereditary in his wife’s family, and may have been appurtenant to thelands which she inherited.

(2) RICHARD, whose mother was Ansfride, a lady of unknown parentage,widow of Anskiill, a knight who was a tenant of Abingdon Abbey. He was b.ante 1101 ; served against the French in 1119, and was captured at LosAndelys, but was set free with his comrades by King Louis, because theyhad taken sanctuary in the church of N.D. du Grand Andely; was with hisfather at the siege of Evreux and the battle of Bremule, 20 Aug. 1119;and in Sep. was sent to raise the siege of Breteuil. He was betrothed toAmice, da. of Ralph de Gael, LORD of MONTFORT in Brittany and BRETEUILin Normandy, with whom he was to receive all her father’s Norman lands;but he d. s.p. immediately afterwards, being drowned in the wreck of theWhite Ship, 25 Nov. 1120 (h), and Amice m. Robert, 2nd EARL of LEICESTER.(see ante vol. vii, pp. 529-30, sub Leicester).

(h) His body was washed up many days later, far from the scene of theshipwreck.

(3) RAINALD of DUNSTANVILLE, whose mother was Sibyl, named also Adela andLucy, da. and in her issue coh. of Robert Corbet, of Alcester, co.Warwick, and Longden, Salop; which Sibyl, after her liaison with Henry I,m. Herbert FitzHerbert. Rainald held land in Wiltshire in 1130. He wascr., circa Apr. 1141, EARL OF CORNWALL, by his half-sister the EmpressMaud. He m. Beatrice, da. and h. of William FitzRichard. He d. spms.leg. 1 July 1175 at Chertsey, Surrey, when his Earldom reverted to theCrown, and was bur, at Reading Abbey. For fuller particulars see ante,vol. iii, p. 429, sub Cornwall.

(4) ROBERT the King’s son, whose mother Ede or Edith was apparently da.of Forn, probably identical with Forn Sigulfson, lord of Greystoke(Cumberland) and a tenant-in-chief in co. York; which Edith, after herliaison with Henry I, m. Robert de Oilli, a royal Constable and constableof Oxford Castle. Robert held land in Devonshire in 1130. He supportedhis half-sister, the EMPRESS Maud, in the Civil War. He was a greattenant-in-chief, his servitium debitum being 100 knights. He m. Maud,dame du Sap in Normandy, widow of William de Courcy, and da. and h. ofRobert de Avranches, by whom he had an only daughter. He d. 31 May 1172.

(5) GILBERT, still young and unmarried in (?) 1142. Nothing more is knownof him.

(6) WILLIAM de Tracy or Tracey, whose mother is unknown, and who d. soonafter his father, leaving (by an unknown wife) a daughter and heir (l).

(l) Grace, who m. John de Sudeley, of Sudeley Castle and Toddington, co.Gloucester, 3rd s. of Harold de Ewias, lord of Ewias (co. Hereford) andSudeley, s. and h. of Ralph, Earl of Hereford, s. of Dreu, Count of theFrench Vexin, by Godgifu, sister of Edward the Confessor. The 1st son,Ralph de Sudeley, suc. his father at Sudeley; the 2nd son, William ofToddington, took his mother's name of Tracy or Tracey; hence Ralph deSudeley confirmed a gift of his brother William de Tracy to GloucesterAbbey. The direct line of Tracy of Toddington became extinct on thedeath of Henry (Tracy), 8th Viscount Tracy, in 1797; but cadets of thisvery ancient house may still exist. [Note: According to Ancestral Roots(line 222-27), Grace was not a daughter of William, but of unknownparents; and Grace's son John was b. bef 1114 ('of age by 1135',admittedly from a 'bef 1130' marriage, but there is no way Grace fits asdaughter of William 'b. c 1190' with a son born that early. Therefore Ihave Grace's father as an unknown Henry de Tracy.]

(7) Henry the King's son, whose mother was Nest, da. of Rhys ap TEWDWR,Prince of South Wales where Henry was born, and wife of Gerald deWindsor. He was slain during Henry II’s invasion of Anglesey in 1157,leaving (by an unknown wife) 2 sons.

(8) FULK the King's son, and Richard the tutor, witnessed a gift toAbingdon Abbey by William, s. of Anskill and Ansfride, the mother ofHenry I’s s. Richard, all abovenamed; the gift being made inconsideration of his mother having been bur, in the abbey. The obviousinference is that Folk was a yr. s. of Henry and Ansfride, and was beingbrought up at the abbey in charge of his tutor. In any event he musthave been a son of Henry I. Fulk probably became a monk at Abingdon or d.young.

(9) WILLIAM, brother of the Queen [Sibyl of Scotland], who was one ofHenry I’s illegitimate daughters (see below), was presumably a son ofSibyl Corbet, and may be supposed to have accompanied his sister toScotland. As 'Willelmensus frater reginae', his name occurs among thoseof the witnesses to the foundation-charter (of doubtful authenticity) ofScone Priory, issued by Alexander I and Queen Sibyl, circa 1120; andagain to a charter of Alexander for Scone in 1124. Sibyl had d. s.p. in1122 and Alexander d. s.p. in 1124, and as there is no more trace ofWilliam in Scotland, it is likely that he returned to England. Probablyhe is William the King’s son who attested a charter of Robert de Toni,1129-33. In 1166 William frater comitis Reginaldi was holding half aknight’s fee in Devonshire under Robert the King’s son, and 4 fees inCornwall, as William frater Comitis, under Earl Rainald of Cornwall. EarlRainald’s brother attested 2 charters of the earl as 'Willelmo fratremeo.' and issued a charter as 'Willelmus de Marisco frater Reginaldicomitis Cornubie,' in which he mentions his wife Alice. He was living in1187.

The daughters were as follows, the first 7 being in the same order as inthe list of Robert de Torigny; who gives the marriages of nos. 1 to 6,but omits the Christian names of 4, 5, 6 and 7.

(1) MAUD, whose mother was Edith, of whom nothing is known (b). She m.in 1103, Rotrou, COUNT of Perche, styled the Great, s. and h. ofGeoffrey, Count of Perche, by Beatrice, da. of Hilduin, Count ofMontdidier and (jure uxoris) Count of Roucy. Rotrou had gone on the 1stCrusade in 1096. In 1105 and 1114 he went to Spain, to help his cousinAlfonso I, King of Navarre and Aragon, against the Moors. In 1114 heassisted Henry I at the siege of Belleme, which he had long beforeclaimed as his hereditary right. The King granted him the Belleme fiefs.He was present at the death of his royal father-in-law in 1135. In 1137Stephen gave him Moulins; but in 1141 he made terms with GeoffreyPlantagenet. Maud was drowned in the wreck of the White Ship, 25 Nov.1120, leaving 2 daughters. Rotrou m., 2ndly, before 1127, Hawise, da. ofWalter de Salisbury, and sister of Patrick, 1st EARL OF Salisbury. He d.in 1144 at the siege of the Tower of Rouen (20 Jan. to 23 Apr.) byGeoffrey Plantagenet, and his widow m., as his 2nd wife, Robert, 1stCount of Dreux, 3rd s. of Louis VI (Le Gros), King of France; whichRobert styled himself Count of Perche and lord of Belleme during theminority of his stepson.

(b) As her daughter married in 1103, she cannot be the daughter of Forn.

(2) MAUD, who m. Conan III, Duke of Brittany, s. of Alan Fergant, Duke ofBrittany, by his 2nd wife, Ermengard, da. of Fulk IV, Count of Anjou.Maud had 1 son and 2 daughters.

(3) JULIANE, who m. in 1103, Eustace de Pacy, styled also de Breteuil.Lord of Breteuil and Pacy, illegitimate son of William on Breteuil, 1sts. of William (FitzOsbern), 1st EARL OF HEREFORD (ante, vol. vi, p. 449,note 'c', sub Hereford). In 1119 Eustace took part in the rebellionagainst Henry I, who besieged Juliane in Breteuil. She fled to Pacy, andin the autumn of 1119 she and her husband were pardoned by the King. Afew years later she became a nun at Fontevrault. Eustace d. at thebeginning of Lent, 1136. They had issue 2 sons and 2 daughters.

(4) ?Eustacie? (k) who m. William Gouet III, LORD or MONTMIRAIL and otherfiefs in that part of Perche which, at a much later date, became known asPerche-Gouet; who was 2nd but 1st surv. s. and h. of William Gouet II,LORD of Montmirail and Chateau-du-Loir, and (jure matris) of Alluye andBrou, by his wife Eustache, and was b. ante 1080. His elder br. Hughhaving d. v.p. he became the heir, and joined with his father and motherEustache, and his brothers Robert and Matthew, in the foundation of thePriory of St. Gilles des Chateigniers as a cell of Tiron. In 1114, asWilliam Gouet junior (juvenem), he was one of the nobles (optimates) ofTheobald, Count of Chartres, whom the Count called in to advise him. In1116, with his father and mother, he gave judgement in a dispute betweenthe abbey of Marmoutier and Gaston de Brou. He suc. his father, probablyabout 1117. He has been confused with his father, and with his s. and h.,William Gouet IV, with whom the line ended. [Note: 'Correction andAdditions to CP' indicates that her name is Mabel.]

(k) R. de Torigny does not name her, and Marx does not try to ascertainher name; nor has it been found in charters. She is called Eustacie byRamsay, presumably through confusion with her mother-in-law.

(5) CONSTANCE, named also MAUD, who m. Roscelin de Beaumont, hereditaryvicomte of Maine, styled Vicomte de Beaumont, Lord of Beaumont-le-Vicomte(alias Beaumont-sur-Sarthe), Fresnay and Ste.-Suzanne, s. of Ralph deBeaumont, by sister of Guy de Laval. Henry I gave South Tawton (Devon),to Roscelin de Beaumont in marriage with his da. Constance. They had 2sons.

(6) ALICE, named also ALINE, who m. Matthew de Montmorenci, 1st s. and h.of Bouchard de Montmorenci, by his 1st wife, Agnes, da. of Yves II, Countof Beaumont-sur-Oise. She d. after having sons by Matthew, who m. 2ndly,Adelaide, widow of Louis VI (Le Gros), King of France, da. of Humbert II,Count of Savoy, by Gisele, da. of William, Count of Burgundy; by whom hehad no issue. Matthew was Constable of France.

(7) ISABEL, whose mother was Isabel (or Elizabeth), da. of Robert (deBeauchamp), Count or Meulan and 1st Earl of Leicester, by Isabel (orElizabeth), da. of Hugh the Great, Count of Vermandois; which last-namedIsabel m., 2ndly, William (de Warenne), 2nd Earl of Surrey (see ante,vol. vii, p. 526, sub Leicester). The youngest of the Isabels was stillunmarried when Robert de Torigny wrote, and so far as is known she nevermarried. Her mother m. Gilbert (FitzGilbert, styled also de Clare), 1stEarl of Pembroke, and she seems to have lived with her mother during thelife and after the death of her stepfather (see ante, vol. x, Appendix H,p. 102).

(8) SIBYL, whose mother was probably Sibyl Corbet. She m. Alexander I,King of Scotland, with whom she is said to have been joint founder ofScone Priory. She gave 'Beeth,' a valuable property in Fifeshire, to theabbey of Dunfermline. She d. s.p., suddenly, 12 or 13 July 1122, on theisland of Loch Tay. Alexander d. s.p. 23 Apr. 1124 and was bur. atDunfermline Abbey, being suc, by his br. David.

(9) MAUD, abbess of Montivilliers, is called a sister of the Empress Moodby the Valasse Chronicle. Traditionally she was identified with Henry l’sdaughter by Isabel de Beaumont, doubtless because Isabel’s daughter wasthe only one in Robert de Torigny’s list not recorded to be married toanother person. The compilers of Gallia Christiana seem somewhatsceptical of Maud’s royal parentage; but this appears to be unreasonable,as the writer of the Valasse Chronicle was a contemporary.

(10) GUNDRED, The Pipe Roll of 130 mentions Gundred, sister of Rainald deDunstanville. Nothing more is known of her. [Note: 'Corrections andAdditions to CP' indicates that the Rainald referred to here is not theillegitimate son of Henry I, but another Rainald de Dunstanville, andtherefore Gundred is not an illegitimate daughter of Henry I either.]

(11) ROHESE, who m., not later than 1146, Henry de la Pomerai, a greatDevonshire baron, s. and h. of Joscelin de la Pomerai. He fought forHenry I in the rebellion of 1123, and in the King’s later years was adeputy or assistant Constable in his Household. In 1136 he was one ofStephen’s commanders in Normandy. He prospered under Henry II. He wasdead in 1167. His wife was probably living in 1175 or 1176. They leftsons, Henry and Joscelin. [Note: Ancestral Roots argues that Rohese wasdaughter of Sybil Corbet, but by her husband Herbert FitzHerbert,pointing out that her daughter married William de Tracy, who would havebeen the daughter's 1st cousin, if she were also descended from Henry I.]

(12) Finally there is the question of the identity of the unnameddaughter whom Henry I had agreed to give to William de Warenne. The Kingasked Anselm what he ought to do, seeing that the parties were related inthe 4th generation on one side and in the sixth on the other. There is noevidence as to whether the girl was one of the 11 daughters alreadyenumerated or another. The archbishop protested against the marriage andit never took place. William de Warenne was probably the 2nd Earl ofSurrey, the only man of that name known to be living at the time, who was4th in descent from the common ancestors: the parents of Gunnor, Duchessof Normandy.

Henry was evidently devoid of racial prejudices in the choice of hismistresses. Of the six whose names are known, the 2 Ediths must have beenEnglish; Ansfride and Sibyl Corbet were presumably Norman. Nest wasWelsh; Isabel de Beaumont was Norman on one side, French on the other.

Henry I has been credited with 2 more daughters, for whom he was notresponsible:

(i) In the Index to Le Prevost's edition of Orderic’s HistoriaEcclesiastica, under 'Helie de Saint-Saens,' there are the entries:'Epouse Ia fille naturelle de Robert Courte-Heuse Ensuite Ia fillenaturelle de Henri Ire. IV, 232'; and under 'Henri Ire': 'Une de sesfilles naturelles epouse Helie de Saint—Sums. IV, 232.' However, thecompiler has misunderstood the passage cited, which refers to Helie'smarriage with a daughter of Duke Robert. The alleged 2nd marriage and theKing’s alleged daughter are alike fictitious.

(ii) Orderic, in his -account of the war between Henry I of England andLouis VI of France, speaks of William de Chaumont as the King’sson-in-law. This has been misunderstood as referring to the King ofEngland, and William’s wife is included among Henry l’s daughters byRamsay; but charter evidence proves that she was the daughter of the Kingof France.

Henry’s benefactions to the Church caused the monkish historians topalliate his sins and to find excuses for his lust; but they could notavert the fatal consequence. When the White Ship was wrecked on thedeadly rock, a boat was launched and the King’s only legitimate son andheir was being rowed to safety. It was the cries of his illegitimatehalf-sister, the Countess of Perche, which induced him to return to thewreck, where they sank together. [THE COMPLETE PEERAGE, Volume XI,Appendix D, pp. 105-121]

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Henry I was born in the year 1068---a factor he himself regarded ashighly significant, for he was the only son of the Conqueror born afterthe conquest of England, and to Henry this meant he was heir to thethrone. He was not an attractive proposition: he was dissolute to adegree, producing at least a score of bastards; but far worse he wasprone to sadistic cruelty---on one occasion, for example, personallypunishing a rebellious burgher by throwing him from the walls of his town.

At the death of William the Conqueror, Henry was left no lands, merely5,000 pounds of silver. With these he bought lands from his elder brotherRobert Curthose, Duke of Normandy, only to see them taken back again afew years later by Robert, in unholy alliance with his brother WilliamRufus.

Henry could do little to avenge such treatment, but in England he foundnumerous barons who were tired of the exactions and ambitions of theirking. He formed alliances with some of these, notably with the importantde Clare family. He and some of the de Clares were with William Rufus onhis last hunting expedition, and it is thought that the king's death wasthe result of Henry's plotting.

Certainly he moved fast to take advantage of it; leaving Rufus's bodyunattended in the woods, he swooped down on Winchester to take control ofthe treasury. Two days later he was in Westminster, being crowned by theBishop of London. His speed is understandable when one realises that hiselder brother, Robert [Curthose], was returning from the crusade, andclaimed, with good reason, to be the true heir.

Henry showed great good sense in his first actions as King. He arrestedRanulph Flambard, William's tax-gatherer, and recalled Anselm, the exiledArchbishop. Furthermore, he issued a Charter of Liberties which promisedspeedy redress of grievances, and a return to the good government of theConqueror. Putting aside for the moment his many mistresses, he marriedthe sister of the King of Scots, who was descended from the royal line ofWessex; and lest the Norman barons should think him too pro-English inthis action, he changed her name from Edith to Matilda. No one couldclaim that he did not aim to please.

In 1101 Robert Curthose invaded, but Henry met him at Alton, andpersuaded him to go away again by promising him an annuity of £2,000. Hehad no intention of keeping up the payments, but the problem wastemporarily solved.

He now felt strong enough to move against dissident barons who might givetrouble in the future. Chief amongst these was the vicious Robert ofBellême, Earl of Shrewsbury, whom Henry had known for many years as adangerous troublemaker. He set up a number of charges against him in theking's court, making it plain that if he appeared for trial he would beconvicted and imprisoned. Thus Robert and his colleagues were forced intorebellion at a time not of their own choosing, were easily defeated andsent scuttling back to Normandy.

In Normandy Robert Curthose began to wreak his wrath on all connectedwith his brother, thus giving Henry an excellent chance to retaliate withcharges of misgovernment and invade. He made two expeditions in 1104-5,before the great expedition of 1106 on which Robert was defeated at thehour-long battle of Tinchebrai, on the anniversary of Hastings. No onehad expected such an easy victory, but Henry took advantage of the stateof shock resulting from the battle to annex Normandy. Robert wasimprisoned (in some comfort, it be said); he lived on for 28 more years,ending up in Cardiff castle whiling away the long hours learning Welsh.His son William Clito remained a free agent, to plague Henry for most ofthe rest of his reign.

In England the struggle with Anselm over the homage of bishops ran itscourse until the settlement of 1107. In matters of secular governmentlife was more simple: Henry had found a brilliant administrator, Roger ofSalisbury, to act as Justiciar for him. Roger had an inventive mind, akeen grasp of affairs, and the ability to single out young men ofpromise. He quickly built up a highly efficient team of administrators,and established new routines and forms of organisation within which theycould work. To him we owe the Exchequer and its recording system of thePipe Rolls, the circuits of royal justiciars spreading the king's peace,and the attempts at codification of law. Henry's good relationships withhis barons, and with the burgeoning new towns owed much to skilfuladministration. Certainly he was able to gain a larger and more reliablerevenue this way than by the crude extortion his brother had used.

In 1120 came the tragedy of the White Ship. The court was returning toEngland, and the finest ship in the land was filled with its young men,including Henry's son and heir William. Riotously drunk, they tried to gofaster and faster, when suddenly the ship foundered. All hands except abutcher of Rouen were lost, and England was without an heir.

Henry's only legitimate child was Matilda, but she was married to theEmperor Henry V of Germany, and so could not succeed. But in 1125 herhusband died, and Henry brought her home and forced the barons to swearfealty to her---though they did not like the prospect of a woman ruler.Henry then married her to Geoffrey of Anjou, the Normans' traditionalenemy, and the barons were less happy---especially when the newly-wedshad a terrible row, and Geoffrey ordered her out of his lands. In 1131Henry, absolutely determined, forced the barons to swear fealty oncemore, and the fact that they did so is testimoney of his controllingpower. Matilda and Geoffrey were reunited, and in 1133 she produced a sonwhom she named for his grandfather. If only Henry could live on until hisgrandson was old enough to rule, all would be well.

But in 1135, against doctor's orders, he ate a hearty meal of lampreys,got acute indigestion, which turned into fever, and died. He was buriedat his abbey in Reading---some said in a silver coffin, for which therewas an unsuccessful search at the Dissolution. [Source: Who's Who in theMiddle Ages, John Fines, Barnes & Noble Books, New York, 1995] He was Ruled between 1100 and 1135.

     Avelina (Wevia) 'not' de Crepon was born circa 960 at Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France. She was the daughter of Herbastus Forester of Arque and Gunnhild Olafsdottir.
     Avelina (Wevia) 'not' de Crepon Avelina, sister of Gundra, wife of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. [Burke'sPeerage]

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The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from apost to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie:

From: Todd A. Farmerie (taf2 AT po.cwru.edu)
Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1996/12/03

Wevia, the only other sister of Gunnor named by Torigny, married Osbernde Bolbec (who is otherwise unknown to history). They had at least twosons: Walter Giffard, ancestor of the English Giffard/Gifford families,and also, through his daughter, of the Clare family; and Godfrey, whoseson William de Arques had two daughters and co-heiresses.

Note; I have Wevia's son as Gozeline (or Godfrey) and grandfather ofWilliam de Arques.

     Richard FitzGilbert de Clare , & Tonbridge, Sir was buried at Priory of St Neot, Cambridgeshire, England. He was born before 1035 at Brionne, Eure, Normandy, France.⁴ He was the son of Gilbert FitzGodfrey Comte d'Eu & Brionne and Constance d' Eu. Richard FitzGilbert de Clare , & Tonbridge, Sir died in May 1089 at Clare, Risbridge, Suffolk, England.^5,6
     He Richard Fitz Gilbert; also known as 'de Bienfaite' (from the quantity ofhis fiefs [so states BP, but CP states Richard was lord of Bienfate &Orbec in Normandy]), 'de Clare' or 'de Tonbridge' (from actual fiefs);went with his cousin William I the Conqueror to England and was granted176 Lordships, 95 of them associated with the Honour (feudal unit ofadministration) of Clare, Suffolk, and others with Tonbridge, Kent.[Burke's Peerage]

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Observations. In the times of the Heptarchy the border fortress of Clare(Suffolk), on the confines of the Kingdoms of East Anglia and Essex, wasof the greatest importance, and continued to be so or many centuriesafterwards, when, it was granted by the Conqueror to Richard FitzGilbert.FitzGilbert's successors the earlier Lords of Clare were, 'it is impliedin the Lords' Reports [vol. iii, p. 124] and elsewhere, styled Earls ofClare before they were Earls of Hertford, but investigation disprovesthis,' though doubtless, these Lords, after they obtained that Earldom,were according to the usage of the period, frequently styled 'Earls ofClare,' just as the Earls of Derby were styled 'Earls Ferrers,' &c. Onaccount of the great importance of these feudal Barons, the earlier Lordsof Clare, so frequently considered to have been actual Peers, a shortaccount of them is subjoined, as under.

HOLDERS OF THE HONOUR OF CLARE (I) temp. William I

RICHARD FITZGILBERT, styled (from his possessions) ' DE BIENFAITE,' 'DECLARE,' and 'DE TONBRIDGE, was son of Gilbert, COUNT OF BRIONNE inNormandy, which Gilbert was son and heir of Godfrey, COUNT OF BRIONNE,illegitimate son of Richard, DUKE OF NORMANDY. He was born before 1035,was Lord of Bienfaite and Orbec in Normandy, accompanied his kinsman,William the Conqueror, into England, and was rewarded by him with no lessthan 176 Lordships, of which 95 were in Suffolk, attached to the Honourof Clare, which honour, with the Castle of Clare, as also the Castle ofTonbridge in Kent, he obtained, becoming thus Lord of Clare and ofTonbridge. During the King's absence he was joint Chief justiciar, and,as such, suppressed the revolt of 1075.

He married Rohese, daughter of Walter GIFFARD, the elder, and aunt andheir of Walter [GIFFARD], 2nd Earl of Buckingham, through which match hisdescendants became co-heirs to the lands of that family. He was living1081, but appears to have died about 1090 being buried at St. Neots, co.Huntingdon. His widow was living, as such, 1113. [Complete PeerageIII:242, XIV:183, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Richard FitzGilbert, having accompanied the Conqueror into England,participated in the spoils of conquest and obtained extensive possessionsin the new and old dominions of his royal leader and kinsman. In 1073 wefind him joined under the designation of Ricardus de Benefacta, withWilliam de Warren, in the great office of Justiciary of England, withwhom, in three years afterwards, he was in arms against the rebelliouslords Robert de Britolio, Earl of Hereford, and Ralph Waher, or Guarder,Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk, and behaved with great gallantry. Butafterwards, at the time of the General Survey, which was towards theclose of William's reign, he is called Ricardus de Tonebruge, from hisseat at Tonebruge (now Tunbridge) in Kent, which town and castle heobtained from the archbishop of Canterbury in lieu of the castle ofBrion, at which time he enjoyed thirty-eight lordships in Surrey,thirty-five in Essex, three in Cambridgeshire, with some others in Wiltsand Devon, and ninety-five in Suffolk, amongst those was Clare, whence hewas occasionally styled Richard de Clare, and that place in a few yearsafterwards becoming the chief seat of the family, his descendants aresaid to have assumed thereupon the title of Earls of Clare. This greatfeudal lord m. Rohese, dau. of Walter Giffard, Earl of Buckingham, andhad issue, Gilbert, his successor, Roger, Walter, Richard, Robert, a dau.m. to Ralph de Telgers, and a dau. mo. to Eudo Dapifer. Richard deTonebruge, or de Clare, whose is said to have fallen in a skirmish withthe Welsh, was s. by his eldest son, Gilbert de Tonebruge. [Sir BernardBurke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p.118, Clare, Lords of Clare, Earls of Hertford, Earls of Gloucester]

     Rohese Giffard was born circa 1036 at Longueville-sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France. She was the daughter of Walter I Giffard , Seigneur of Longueville and Agnes Flatel. Rohese Giffard died after 1113.³
     She He [Richard FitzGilbert de Clare] married Rohese, daughter of WalterGIFFARD, the elder, and aunt and heir of Walter [GIFFARD], 2nd Earl ofBuckingham, through which match his descendants became co-heirs to thelands of that family. He was living 1081, but appears to have died about1090 being buried at St. Neots, co. Huntingdon. His widow was living, assuch, 1113. [Complete Peerage III:242, XIV:183, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

     Gilbert FitzGodfrey Comte d'Eu & Brionne was born circa 980 at Brionne, Eure, Normandy, France. He was the son of Godfrey FitzRichard of Brionne , Comte d'Eu and Hawise de Guines. Gilbert FitzGodfrey Comte d'Eu & Brionne died in 1040 at Eu, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; (Assassinated.)³
     He Gilbert, Count of Brionne, who was son of Godfrey, Count of Brionne,illegitimate son of Richard I, the Fearless, Duke of Normandy. [MagnaCharta Sureties, line 157-1]

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Gilbert, Count of Brionne; benefactor of the Abbey of Bec in Normandy.[Burke's Peerage]

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Gilbert, Earl of Brion, had two sons, Richard, ancestor of the house ofClare, and Baldwin de Brionis. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and ExtinctPeerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 139, Courtenay, BaronsCourtenay, Earls of Devon]

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Gislebert, surnamed Crispin, Earl of Brion, in Normandy, whose eldest son[was] Richard FitzGilbert. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and ExtinctPeerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 118, Clare, Lords of Clare,Earls of Hertford, Earls of Gloucester]

Note: I have Gilbert Crispin of Tillieres and Gilbert Count of Brionne astwo different people.